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Doughboy

Bread Stick Recipes please!

Hey,

I'm looking for some good breadstick recipes. I have Peter Reinhart's American Pie book, I don't know if any of those doughs transfer well into bread sticks. Also any good tips for shaping the sticks? Much appreciated.

Doughboy

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syllymom

Using Fresh Ground Flour in SD Starter seems to kill the starter, Help!

Still learning with fresh ground flour so here is my new question.  It seems that when I feed my SD starter with fresh ground flour it seems to kill the starter.  I can save the starter by refreshing with store bought flour.  But the fresh ground flour looks like it the water and flour seperate and it just is not the same.  Any ideas?  It looks like when you are starting a new starter and in the early stage you get that layer of liquid at the bottom.... you the bad stuff.

Help!

Sylvia

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Marni

Seaweed and Other Cracker Recipes from the Los Angeles Times

I saw these recipes in the LA Times this morning and just don't have the time to try them, but thought I'd pass along the article.  Maybe someone would like to give them a try.  They sure look interesting to me. 

http://www.latimes.com/features/food/la-fo-cracker28-2008may28,0,112729.story

Marni

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Eli

Scones Question

Has anyone made the cream scones recipe found in Crust and Crumb by PR? I made them for the first time today and had to add more cream. One cup wasn't going to bring any moisture to the flour at all? With one cup I could barely get a shaggy mess started. Just curious as to whether anyone else had had the same problem.

Thanks,

Eli

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Felila

How to fire a brick oven - nice pix

Over at Joe Pastry's Blog

http://www.joepastry.com/

he's talking about his new brick oven, and his difficulties learning to use it. Nice pix. I hadn't realized that firing a brick oven was such an art. 

 

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bakerincanada

herman sourdough

I found a recipe on the King Arthur site for making a herman sourdough from sourdough, milk, flour and sugar.  It is an easier way to make the Amish friendship starter that was popular a few years back.  It makes a great, moist long keeping cake.  There is a book called Best of Sourdough Herman by Dawn Johanson.  It has recipes for cakes, muffins and breads.  Anyone familiar with this book?  Any comments on it? Iam considering adding it to my library.  Anyone have any good recipes using the herman sourdough?  Thanks

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junehawk

BBA's Sticky Buns

They are GOOD! I had made them before but the cinnamon bun version, however, the sticky buns are much better. I find this dough very nice to work with and the end result well worth the little effort they take. I just wanted to brag about a success after my recent rustic breads failures. LOL Yum! I have more on them on my blog, http://thymeforfood.blogspot.com/2008/05/bun-by-any-other-name.html

 

June

 

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subfuscpersona

What's the right grain for chappati flour?

I home mill my own flour and need to know what is the correct grain to buy to make whole wheat chapati and other breads that are cooked on the stove top using a griddle (or cast iron frying pan).

According to my Indian cook books, chapati flour is called *atta*;  this is generally  defined as  a very fine whole wheat flour milled from the entire wheat berry. My problem - what kind of wheat is used for chapati flour?

When I research it on the 'net, I get articles that say it is hard wheat  or durum wheat. However, my cookbook "The Art of Indian Vegetarian Cooking" (by Yamuna Devi) says atta is made from *soft* wheat flour and goes on to suggest mixing two parts whole wheat *pastry* flour with 1 part unbleached white flour or *cake* flour if you can't get imported atta flour. This certainly suggests that *soft* wheat, not hard, would be the better grain choice.

I use a Nutrimill grain mill which can produce a finely milled flour. But what grain should I use - hard wheat? soft wheat? durum wheat?

Looking forward to your answers - thanks

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shakleford

Vollkornbrot

This weekend I finally made a loaf of vollkornbrot, which I'd been planning to do for some time.  It was a lot of fun, and let me try several things that I had not done before:

  • I used the formula from Peter Reinhart's Whole Grain Breads, which includes preparing a mash on the first day.  A mash is a thin paste of flour or whole grains and water, kept at 150 for several hours.  The goal of this is to produce what I think can best be described as enzyme craziness.
  • I've been on a rye kick lately (rye sourdoughs are currently my favorite type of bread), but had not tried anything more than around 2/3 rye.  While a 2/3 rye dough is a lot different than a wheat dough, the vollkornbrot dough was much different than either of them.
  • I bought a grain mill around a month ago, and while I've been very happy with it, I've been using it almost exclusively to produce finely-ground wheat flour.  I'd been holding off using it for rye, as I still have a fair amount of store-bought rye flour to use up.  However, the vollkornbrot recipe calls for coarsely-ground rye, so I figured it would be a good opportunity to break out the rye berries I bought.  For the mash, I actually produced what I would classify as cracked rye (the recipe calls for rye chops), sifting out the smaller pieces to use as part of the flour for the starter.
Day 1 consisted of preparing the mash mentioned above, along with a starter.  Having never made a mash before, I can't really say if mine turned out correctly, but it was gelatinous and quite pleasant-tasting.  I've been maintaining both a rye and a whole wheat starter for a couple of months now, and have had good success with both, but I used the rye starter in this recipe just to make the end result 100% rye.  Since the expanded starter was made of coarsely-ground rye it did not rise much, but smelled terrific.  The mash and starter are pictured below: 

On Day 2, I combined the above ingredients along with a good deal more rye flour and a few other items (including, somewhat surprisingly to me, sunflower seeds).  On a whim, I used a medium-coarse grind on this additional flour as well.  Reinhart lists molasses and cocoa powder as additional optional ingredients, but I decided to leave them out in this batch.  After mixing the final dough, I let it proof - the rise was pretty limited, as one might expect, but it was noticeable.  Reinhart's instructions have this bread being cooked in an open pan, but based on my reading, I wanted to try it with a lid.  However, I do not have a Pullman pan and have sworn off buying any additional kitchen accessories for at least two months.  Instead, I used the oft-recommended trick of covering the pan with a baking sheet (weighed down with a cast iron skillet) to roughly approximately a lidded pan.

After around two hours of baking (including rotating the loaf after the first hour so that it cooked more evenly), I pulled the below item out of the oven.  I was a little bit disappointed with its appearance, as the flour that I can carefully sprinkled inside the pan and on the top of the loaf had mostly disappeared and there were not as many cracks as I was expecting.

The hardest part of the process was still to come:  waiting until Day 3 to sample the loaf.  Fortunately, that was today.  I'd wrapped the loaf in a towel after it cooled yesterday, and when I took it out this evening, it smelled terrific.  Cutting through that crust was a bit of a challenge (as expected), but once I made it through, the crumb was quite soft with a very unique texture.  Reinhart says that using a mash gives the crumb a creamy texture, and while I didn't really know what that meant before trying this bread, I have to say that "creamy" is probably the word for it.  The taste was very complex - it didn't have much of a rye flavor, but I could detect the sourness from the starter, the sweetness from the mash, a hint of the taste of the sunflower seeds, and many other factors that I can't quite place.  For the first time I can remember, I wish that a loaf I made had more crumb and less crust.  I will also be interested to see how the flavors continue to develop over the next several days.  I've included a photo of the crumb below.

Overall, this was a very satisfying bake for me.  I love trying new ingredients and techniques, and when they actually produce something this tasty, it's even better!  I will definitely be baking more vollkornbrot in the future, although I think I may first try a few of the lighter recipes I've been neglecting.  I also plan to save some of this loaf to provide altus, perhaps for Reinhart's Bavarian Pumpernickel recipe.  In addition, I'm now more interested than ever in trying my mill out on different grains and coarser grinds.  So many breads, so little time...

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Janedo

Roasted flour in bread, anyone tried?

I'd like to do some testing with roasted flour in a bread recipes. That is taking flour, laying it on a baking tray and roasting it until it darkens and becomes nutty in flavour.

Has anyone tried or know of any recipes I could try? I'm not sure what proportion would be needed to actually get good taste and I'm assuming the flour loses it's ability to develop gluten. I thought maybe using it like rye in a 'pain de campagne'.

The baker I spoke about in my blog entry makes a pain rustique using it. I have seen a couple articles mentioning it.

Jane 

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