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Bread Evaluation Notes - Advice welcome.

Pullman Sandwich loaf with 16% lupin flour

Date Baked: 16th April 2023. 

Tangzong method adopted (5% bread flour)

Weight against Volume

I mixed 1000-gram dough @ 60% hydration. The dough was very tight, and I should have added extra water but didn’t. It became more pliable and softer during the bulk fermentation and shaping.

The dough colour was pale yellow like custard. I intended to place into a 330-mm (13”) Pullman pan. I shaped the dough into a blunt cylinder suitable to the Pullman pan. The dough only raised about 1/3 height of the pan. I extended the final proof from 90 minutes to 120 minutes, but I was worried it would over proof.

Taste

The baked loaf had a long lingering finish. With a smooth mouthfeel and a slightly nutty flavour. The crumb was a pale-yellow colour with a nice sandwich density, not heavy or gummy. The aroma was sweet.

My chief tester and critic are my wife who liked the taste and picked up the nutty flavour introduced by the lupin flour.  We tried it fresh, toasted and with an aged vintage cheddar.

I would I bake this again.

Suggested improvements for next bake:

Increase the hydration. Use a fresh sachet of IDY. Investigate appropriate dough to pan size for this formula.

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Isand66

 

 I’ve made bread with carrots before and I loved the extra sweetness it provides.  Previously I have roasted them and cut them into little pieces to add to the dough.  I decided to puree them in the mini-food processor this time.  I had seen a video on FB of a professional baker who juiced the carrots and added the carrot juice in place of the water so I wanted to try and get the carrots as liquid as I could.  They were not really like carrot juice but the pureed version did add nice purple striations to the dough.

The flours I used were freshly grounded whole wheat (Big Country from Barton Spring Mill) sifted twice and milled twice as well as some KAF bread flour.  I added some whole milk ricotta cheese to add some additional softness to the crumb.  

The overall hydration is higher than indicated in the formula since the ricotta cheese is about 72% water and carrots also added some extra moisture.  The dough was pretty wet but was manageable.

I love the flavor profile on this bake.  The Big Country whole wheat is one of my favorites and added with the carrots it gave just enough of a hint of sweetness to make this one a winner for sure and worth baking again.

Formula

Levain Directions 

Mix all the levain ingredients together for about 1 minute and cover with plastic wrap.  Let it sit at room temperature for around 6-7 hours or until the starter has almost doubled.  I used my proofer set at 76 degrees so it took around 5 hours for me.  Either use in the main dough immediately or refrigerate for up to 1 day before using.

 Main Dough Procedure

Mix the flour and liquids (leave about 50 -70 grams to add after the first mix), together in your mixer or by hand until it just starts to come together, maybe about 1 minute.  Let it rest in your work bowl covered for 20-30 minutes.  After 30 minutes or so  add the salt, starter (cut into about 7-8 pieces), pureed roasted carrots, ricotta  and remaining water as needed and mix on low for 5 minutes.   Note: If you are using the Ankarsrum mixer like I do, add your water to the bowl first then add in the starter and flours.  After your autolyse add in the salt, carrots, ricotta and remaining water and mix on low to medium low for 15-20 minutes.

Remove the dough from your bowl and place it in a lightly oiled bowl or work surface and do several stretch and folds.  Let it rest covered for 10-15 minutes and then do another stretch and fold.  Let it rest another 10-15 minutes and do one additional stretch and fold.  After a total of 1.5 hours place your covered bowl in the refrigerator and let it rest for 12 to 24 hours.  

When you are ready to bake remove the bowl from the refrigerator and let it set out at room temperature still covered for 1.5 to 2 hours or if using a proofer set at 80 degrees for one hour.  (Note:  this is a very sticky dough, so make sure to add plenty of rice flour to your bannetons if using).  Remove the dough and shape as desired and cover with a moist tea towel or plastic wrap Sprayed with cooking spray and let rise at room temperature for 1 1/2 – 2 hours.  (I use my proofer set at 80 F and it takes about 1 hour to 1.5 hours).

Around 45 minutes before ready to bake, pre-heat your oven to 500 degrees F. and prepare it for steam.  I have a heavy-duty baking pan on the bottom rack of my oven with 1 baking stone on above the pan and one on the top shelf.  I pour 1 cup of boiling water in the pan right after I place the dough in the oven.

After 1 minute lower the temperature to 450 degrees.  Bake for around 35 minutes or until the breads are nice and brown and have an internal temperature around 200-210 F. 

Take the bread(s) out of the oven when done and let them cool on a bakers rack for as long as you can resist. 

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Today's bake: Ploughman's Loaf

Source: Sourdough Recipes for Rustic Fermented Breads, Sweets, Savories, and More - Sarah Owens

Note: Increased TDW from 1.323kg to 2.0kg

Discussion:

The left loaf was baked in the Challenger bread pan, the right loaf on a baking steel.

This is my first attempt baking this bread and found the dough to be somewhat sticky and loose.

I milled at the finest setting some Einkorn Wheat Berries-100% Extract and White Sonora Wheat Berries-100% Extract.

This bread's soft, moist crumb has a mild lactic acid/yogurt taste with a creamy texture and the crust a pleasing toasty/nut like flavor.

This bread would pair nicely with most mild flavored foods.

Make again? - Yes

Changes/Recommendations: Work on improving the scoring.

Ratings

 Tony

 

 

 

 

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qrkid

been a while since I posted anything. Been baking about 1 loaf a week of various breads but this is my new go to for weekly sandwich bread.

Final dough:

AP Flour (Shepherds Grain low gluten)           250g

Semolina (Bob's Red Mill)                                250g

Water                                                                350g

Salt                                                                   10g

EVOO                                                               14g

Levain                                                               100g

Black Sesame                                                   3tsp

Everything Bagel Seasoning                             3 tsp

 

- Mixed ripe levain with flour and 300g water and fermentalysed for 1hr

- mixed dough in stand mixer for about 3min

- added EVOO and mixed until well incorporated

- dissolved salt in last 50g of water and added to dough 1Tbl at a time letting it fully absorb before adding next  Tbl.

- Place in clean covered bowl and begin bulk ferment for around 3hrs. Stretch and fold x3 every 30min.

- added black sesame and everything seasoning on first set of stretch and fold.

- After bulk ferment pre shaped bread and let rest for 25min

- Shaped loaf, rolled in black and white sesame and placed in banneton. Let proof for 1hr

- placed in fridge for 16hrs

baked in covered clay cloche @ 475f convection oven for 20min. Turned oven down to 430f and baked for another 26min.

Super tasty bread with a creamy soft crumb. Sesame adds great flavor and everything seasoning adds nice bursts of garlic.

 

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CalBeachBaker

Today's bake: The "Juicy One" - Das Saftige (Germany)

Source: theryebaker.com/das-saftige/  by Stanley Ginsberg

Note: Pullman loaf size -  9″x4″x4″/23x10x10 cm . Molasses for Beet syrup due to availability

Discussion:

This loaf was baked in a Paderno 15-3/4 x 4 x 4" Bread Pan with an attempt at a 'reducer' to make the dough area 9x4x4" shown below.

This is my first attempt baking this bread. I milled some rye berries set at coarse to get the equivalent of coarse rye meal and then sifted with #60 sieve to extract the amount of medium rye four required.

This bread's soft, moist crumb has a mild lactic acid and molasses taste and caraway and citrus notes of coriander with a rustic graininess mouthfeel and the crust a pleasing toasty/nut like flavor.

This bread would pair nicely with strong cheeses and other strongly flavored foods.

Make again? - Most definitely, Yes

Changes/Recommendations: I'll be working on either a firmer cardboard divider or optimally, a steel divider @4x4x4" so I can make loafs of various sizes.

Ratings

 

Odd shape due to the softness of the divider.

Weak divider.

 

 

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Tried the Brioches Pain Aux Raisins- beautiful 

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yozzause

A bake with lupin flour and Lupin flakes, this time i did the bake as an instant dough, no bulk fermentation which is achieved by using Wallaby bread Improver at the rate of 1% . I had previously prepared the lupin flour in the same way as The Tangzhong which was to use the ratio of 5 : 1 that is 250 water to 50 grams of Lupin Flour The lupins do not have the starch that wheat flour has so there was no great thickening into a paste but it did resemble runny custard in colour and consistency. i had pre made this and had it in the fridge so micro waved it to warm it up the other ingredients were put into my Noodle dough mixer and mixed there was an addition of 34 g of water but it was soon obvious that it was going to take more and i reckon i added another 50 or 60 g and got a nice soft dough the other ingredients were FLOUR 372g; LUPIN FLAKES 16g; SALT 9g ; BREAD IMPROVER 4.5g; EVO 9g; YEAST 9g; WATER 34g + 50g. The dough was given a rest after mixing of about 20 minutes then degassed and given another 10 minute rest before being shaped and popped into a Banneton and that into a plastic bag, It pretty much filled the Banneton as it had picked up a few extra grams from the added water i went to take pictures but my camera had a flat battery. it proofed quickly 45 minutes was then tipped out onto baking paper scored and slid onto a hot clay tray. A steaming towel was employed for the first 10 minutes and as that was withdrawn from the oven the temperature was reduced to just under 200C and baked for 45 minutes. This loaf is destined for tomorrows family brunch. i was able to charge the battery in time for it coming out of the oven and its cooling phase.

 

The loaf made it to the brunch but didn't survive the occasion, being completely devoured in no time  the verdict was that they all enjoyed it.

 

kind regards Derek

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yozzause

last week i had a chance meeting with David from The Lupin Co at a Bee Buddy meeting in Fremantle when David spoke about using Lupin flour as a supplementary bee food and making bee patties for over wintering bees. I have since had a meeting with David and will be assisting on helping develop some bread formulas for the home bread baker. i will be doing a number of bakes and increasing the Lupin flour content . i have had my first bake where i followed a recipe as written by a baker that was assisting David but unfortunately died suddenly. i followed it to the letter just to familiarise myself with the feel of the dough and its characteristics.

i also have a few of my own ideas that i would like to explore along the way If anyone has any ideas on crackers focaccias and even pizza crusts that we might try then please let me know . i was very pleased with the first bake and the dough handled well . attached are some pictures of the result including toast from this morning which was really tasty. We also tried the flakes on our chicken schnitzel and enjoyed them too.

 

 

 

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For our final dinner party we are hosting down here in Florida I wanted to make pulled pork sandwiches so I needed to have a large enough bun that while soft would hold up to the sauce, pulled pork and roasted pineapple.  So I decided that increasing the whole wheat would make the bun a bit firmer while the addition of the sweet potato would enhance the flavour.  I unfortunately didn’t get photos of the sandwiches, however, I do have some pulled pork and buns leftover so I’ll try to remember to take some photos of the assembled sandwiches.

For 8 buns

 

egg wash: 1 yolk, 1 tbsp milk and a pinch of salt, beaten…

 

Instructions

Levain

Mix the levain ingredients in a jar or pyrex container with space for at least 300% growth. 

Press down with your knuckles or silicone spatula to create a uniform surface and to push out air.

At a temperature of 76ºF, it typically takes up to 10-12 hours for this stiff  sweet levain to be at peak.  For my starter I typically see 3-3.5 times increase in size at peak.  The levain will smell sweet with only a mild tang.

 

Tangzhong 

In a sauce pan set on medium heat, stir the milk and flour until blended. Then cook for several minutes until well thickened, stirring regularly with a spoon or heat-resistant spatula. Let cool in the pan or, for faster results, in a new bowl.  Theoretically it should reach 65ºC (149ºF) but I don’t find I need to measure the temperature as the tangzhong gelatinizes at this temperature.  You can prepare this the night before and refrigerate it, ensure that it is covered to prevent it from drying out.

 

Dough

In the bowl of a stand mixer, add the milk (consider holding back 10 g of milk and adding later if this is the first time you’re making this), egg, tangzhong, salt, sugar and levain.  Mix and then break up the levain into many smaller pieces.  Next add the flour, I like to use my spatula to mix until there aren’t many dry areas.  Allow the flour to hydrate (fermentolyse) for 15 minutes.  Mix on low speed and then medium speed until moderate gluten development this may take 5-10 mins.  You may want to scrape the sides of the bowl during the first 5 minutes of mixing.  Next drizzle in the melted butter a little at a time, or alternatively add room temperature butter one pat at a time.  Slow the mixer down to avoid splashing the butter at you. The dough may come apart, be patient, continue to mix until it comes together before drizzling or adding in more butter.  Once all the butter has been added and incorporated increase the speed gradually to medium.  Add the mashed potatoes gradually.  Mix at medium speed until the gluten is well developed, approximately 10 mins.  You will want to check gluten development by windowpane during this time and stop mixing when you get a good windowpane.  You should be able to pull a good windowpane.

On the counter, shape the dough into a tight ball, cover in the bowl and ferment for 2.5-3.5 hours at 82ºF.  There should be some rise visible at this stage.

 

You can next place the dough into the fridge to chill the dough for about 1.5 hours, this makes rolling the dough easier to shape.  Remember, if you do so the final proof will take longer.  Alternatively, you can do a cold retard in the fridge overnight, however, you may find that this increases the tang in your bread.

 

Line a large cookie tray with parchment paper.  Punch the dough down and then divide into 8 equal portions.  Form each into tight boules.  Place on a parchment lined cookie tray.  Cover them and allow them to fully proof about 4-6 hours, they should pass the poke test.

 

After about 30 mins of proofing time, whisk your remaining egg and milk and then brush the small boules.

 

About 30 mins prior to end of final proof preheat the oven to 350°F. 

Immediately prior to baking brush the dough again with the egg and milk mixture.  Top with sesame seeds.

 

Bake the buns uncovered for 30-35 minutes or until the internal temperature is at least 190F. Cover if your rolls get brown early in the baking process.

 

Remove the buns from the oven and transfer to a rack to cool.

 

These buns were a success, they definitely stood up well to the saucy pulled pork while still being soft and flavourful.

My index of bakes.

 

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OK last dinner party of the Fort Lauderdale season for us as hosts.  One last pie that I’m making here in Fort Lauderdale until next visit whenever that is.  I loved the simplicity of the lime coconut pie but wanted to make it with the Ritz Cracker crust for a bit of saltiness to contrast the lime coconut flavor.  Also with the Ritz Cracker crust instead of the graham cracker crust I can control the amount of sugar and reduce it which is better in my mind.  I do find the graham crackers down here are very sweet so the crust turns out too sweet for me.  Ritz Crackers aren’t so sweet so the crust is a bit more neutral in sweetness which is great.

A great way of making very stable flavored whipped cream is adding jello powder.  Yes jello powder.  Unfortunately I couldn’t find coconut jello here, so I had a vanilla jello box sitting around so my whipped cream is vanilla flavored.  To 1 cup of whipping cream add 2 tbsp of jello powder +/- 1 tbsp of sugar.  Mix to dissolve and then whip as usual.  You will find that this whipped cream is super stable for several days and really holds the shape of the piping tip you use. 

Ritz Cracker Crust

  • 175 g Ritz Crackers, crushed. 
  • 1 tablespoons granulated sugar
  • 1/2 teaspoons kosher salt
  • 1/2 cup (4 oz.) unsalted butter, melted

Preheat oven to 350°F.

Crush the crackers finely, but not to dust. You can use a food processor or your hands. Add the salt and sugar, then sprinkle in the melted butter tossing with a fork until the mixture starts to clump evenly.  Ritz Cracker Crust

  • 5 ounces round buttery crackers (such as Ritz) (about 40 crackers), crushed.  (Original not enough increased to 175 g)
  • 3 tablespoons granulated sugar (reduce greatly to 1 tbsp)
  • 1 1/2 teaspoons kosher salt (reduce to ½ tsp)
  • 1/2 cup (4 oz.) unsalted butter, melted

Preheat oven to 350°F.

Crush the crackers finely, but not to dust. You can use a food processor or your hands. Add the salt and sugar, then knead in the butter until the crumbs hold together like dough. Press into an 9-inch pie pan. Freeze for 30 minutes, then bake for 20 minutes or until the crust is golden brown. 

In the meantime prepare the filling.

  • 250 ml (1 cup) heavy cream
  • 4 tablespoons icing sugar (sub 2 tbsp sugar)
  • (2/3 cup) unsweetened coconut milk
  • 14-ounces (1 can) sweetened condensed milk
  • 1/4 cup freshly squeezed or bottled Key lime juice
  • Zest of 1 lime, finely grated

To garnish:

  • Whipped cream (optional)
  • Toasted coconut (optional)
  • lime slices or lime zest

Instructions:

  • In a bowl, using an electric mixer or a whisk by hand, beat heavy cream and sugar until creamy. Add the coconut milk, condensed milk, lime juice, and lime zest and whisk until fluffy and thick. Pour into crust and refrigerate for at least 30 minutes to set.
  • Before serving, top pie with whipped cream, sprinkle some toasted coconut and/or lime slices (if desired). Slice and serve.

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