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VickiePNW

Recently purchased this oven after deciding that the Anova Precision Oven was too big and too finicky (wifi). After reading the very long, 3 part, egullet thread on the Cuisinart Convection Steam Oven, I decided it was perfect for me.

This oven is small. Baking tall loaves requires a careful watch for burning tops. Since my bread of choice is ciabatta, this is less of a problem. So far, no problem. I continue to prefer to divide my dough into roll size portions, about 125g, refrigerate in small containers, and bake one as needed. I prefer this as opposed to baking all and freezing.

I am not so sure about proofing using the Steam function at 100º (lowest temp). So far, my loaves have signs of overproofing using this. So I continue to use my adjustable heating mat inside the TV cabinet. 

So, I have been using the Bread function, 450º 11 minutes. In the Bread function, the oven uses steam initially. I find this works well. This is a crumb shot of a roll. Very happy.

BTW, Cuisinart has discontinued this oven. Amazon still sells new and "refurbished" units. I bought a refurbished unit because the price was so good, $135. And it looks like new, never used. Now the price of a refurbished unit dropped to $119 and I am debating whether or not to buy a back up. It is great for steaming/baking and reheating other food. 

 

 

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WatertownNewbie

This is as much for anyone looking for a way to bake with emmer flour as for any other reason, but that should be sufficient.  Emmer is a nice flour (mine comes from Barton Springs, but it is available generally).

For those who read my post in the Community Bake thread, you might recall that I mentioned wanting to make a few changes.  This bake incorporated a soaker, which softened the rye chops especially.  In addition, the soaker added some needed hydration to the dough.  Lastly, I did only two sets of stretch-and-folds.  All of these changes were for the better, and I see no need to make any more for the next few bakes (my opinion could always change, of course).

Here is a summary in case you are looking for a recipe involving emmer.

     Levain

Starter                        40 g

Bread Flour              100 g

Whole Wheat Flour  100 g

Water                       250 g

 

     Soaker

Rye Chops                50 g

Oats                          30 g

Sunflower Seeds      20 g

Water (boiling)        100 g

 

     Final Dough

Bread Flour                234 g

Whole Wheat Flour    233 g

Emmer Flour              333 g

Soaker                       all

Water                         470 g

Levain                        all

Salt                              18 g

I prepared the Levain as well as the Soaker the night before and let them sit at room temperature.  When the Levain was properly bubbly, I combined the Final Dough flours, the Soaker, and the water until they were rough and shaggy.  You might think that you need to add water to make the components into a single mass, but resist that urge.  The Soaker will provide the moisture.

Then I let the combo sit for a half hour before adding the Levain and salt.  For this step I employed Forkish's pincher method of mixing, and you will definitely need to work the dough to get the Levain thoroughly distributed in the Final Dough.  After mixing (I included eighty French Folds), the dough temperature was only 72F, and the kitchen was 70F.  I anticipated a little longer bulk fermentation.

After sixty minutes I did the first stretch-and-fold and then another an hour after that.  Thereafter the dough sat until it was ready for pre-shaping.  For this bake the total bulk fermentation was four hours and eighteen minutes.  The dough went onto the counter and was divided into two portions, both of which were pre-shaped into rounds.  After a twenty minute bench rest, one portion became a batard and the other a boule.  The dough went into bannetons (and those into plastic bags) and into the refrigerator for an overnight proofing.

After nearly sixteen hours in the fridge the bannetons came out.  The boule went into a Dutch oven heated to 475F, and the batard went onto a baking stone at 450F.  The lid came off the Dutch oven after twenty minutes.  Two aluminum pie pans filled with hot water provided steam for the baking stone.  Total baking time for each loaf was forty-eight minutes.

The trio of bread flour, whole wheat, and emmer seem to go well together.  This is a bread that I will bake again.  My wife and I kept the batard, while the boule went to some friends.

Here are the two loaves.

 

Here is the crumb from the one we kept.

 

Happy baking.

Ted

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The Roadside Pi...

Quick as a jiffy rolls to go with my burgers. Very nice results. My only critique, I should have been more aggressive, pressing them down into the burger bun shape.

The shaping process

1. The well fermented dough ball is divided into three smaller equal pieces.

2. Each of the three dough balls is rolled out into a log shape.

3. Each of the logs is divided into four equal pieces

4. Each of the 111g pieces is shaped into a tight little ball.

5. Under my conditions, proofing covered on the bench took 35 minutes.

6. Each of the flegling hamburger buns is washed with whole egg cut with whole milk.

7. Six are topped with white & black sesame. Six are topped with poppy.

8. The bake took 40 minutes, at 400°F.

 

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The Roadside Pi...

Pumpkin, cranberry raisin Bread.

Phase 1 ✅

The mix and mechanical dough development.

Phase 2✅

Day two. After the long slow bulk fermentation. The loaves are shaped and baked.

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CalBeachBaker

Today's bake: Community Bake - Infinity Bread

Source: pmccool

Notes: None

Substitutions:  None

Discussion:  This is a delightful bread made with bread flour, fresh milled hard red wheat and bloody butcher corn, water, pepita seeds, diastatic malt, and honey (formula and process below). The crust turned out nice and crunchy with a toasty flavor. The crumb is soft with a semi coarse texture from the milled corn. My semi-biased tasters gave this bake a 2 thumbs up.

Make again? - Yes, definitely.

Changes/Recommendations:  Make a larger batch with bigger loaves. Improve scoring.

Ratings:

 

 

 

 

 Tony

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Martadella

I used 500g rye berries for this bread. I milled them in a hand burr mill on a very coarse setting. I remilled half of them on a relatively fine setting. Use all that alongside 500 g warm water, about 300 g 100% hydration rye preferment, salt and coriander to make a dough. 

Good taste and lovely texture. Coarse rye flour makes great crumb.

 
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alfanso

Based on a YouTube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl4Hfi8ma1c I saw a day or two ago, these little beauties are made with the Hamelman Vermont SD formula.  Scaled at 250g each, just a guess from the visual cues of the video, they were a snap to shape and to score.  It seems that this bakery is in Seoul S Korea.

As is often the case with the VT SDs the low hydration prevents open crumb regardless of the wonderful oven spring these exhibit.

 

 And a screen capture from the video
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fredsbread

I always have so many different types of bread I'd like to bake, but I can only eat so much in any given week. One style of bread I've been wanting to try for a few months is a miche, and now that I've gotten a handle on making my own 85% extraction flour, I decided now was the time to jump on it.


I didn't follow any one recipe for this, though I did use the BBA baking directions for reference since this mass of dough is twice what I usually bake. In the future I would preheat the oven to 450°F instead of 500°F, so that I can leave it in longer and get a darker, crispier crust.


My formula was pretty simple:


  • 1000 g 85% extraction freshly milled hard red wheat

  • 800 g water

  • 100 g stiff starter (white, 57% hydration)

  • 21 g salt

I doubled my typical leaven amount and didnt retard the proof because I wanted to get it all done yesterday.



The crust is slightly chewy. The crumb is tender and moist, with a hearty whole wheat flavor and a touch of sourdough tang. From everything I had read about miches I was honestly surprised at the height I got. The aspect ratio is obviously nowhere near what you'd get from a smaller batard, but it still impressed me.


PS: Does anyone know why I get so much extra whitespace before and after my photos on here? I'd like to just get the normal paragraph spacing.

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Elle_

Hello! Newbie here! 

I am new to baking with sprouted flours. I purchased Peter Reinhart’s book Bread Revolution, and have been enjoying “the read”, but struggle with getting my sprouted whole wheat dough to a windowpane stage. The gluten development seems inferior to regular wheat flour, and the crumb is more like a quick bread than a yeast bread. ☹️

In his book, Peter say’s a poolish is not needed, but I went ahead and made a sprouted whole wheat loaf using poolish. The structure of the dough was much more satisfying and it finally reached a windowpane stage and turned out better than  my previous try’s. I am using 100% sprouted flours. 

I would love to know your success story getting a chewy yeast bread using sprouted whole wheat flour. 

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JonJ

When it comes to omelette fillings the combination of miso paste and hummus is complementary and comforting, although I suspect I'm the only one who tries something like that with their eggs. And, it is true that miso, and hummus, when spread on hot buttered toast are simply delicious. So, my thinking was that together they could make for a great combination in a bread, even if it is difficult to imagine!

The recipe is a combination of Benny's miso bread (which used 10% miso) and Txfarmer's hummus sourdough. Txfarmer used quite a lot of hummus - 265g per 340g of bread flour, and she also, quite importantly used home made hummus. Although I do make my own, for convenience sake I bought tub of hummus which unfortunately only gave me 187g of hummus (so I used less than txfarmer), and halfway through I was worried that using a commercial hummus wasn't so smart as the sorbic acid in it might negatively affect the sourdough culture, but it seems to have been okay. For miso, I used this lovely "marumu inaka" red/brown miso.

The final dough had 340g bread flour, 187g hummus, 34g miso paste, 152g water (plus an extra 30g water added later as bassinage), 100g levain, 7g salt and 10g vital wheat gluten (as "insurance"). I didn't reduce the salt, as Benny also didn't, but he also didn't add hummus, and my final bread was fairly salty. I'd say to reduce or even leave out the salt if you're going to try this bread. The final dough was mixed for 5 minutes on the dough hook followed by 30 slap and folds. My notes say it 'bounced' when I tried to slap and fold, so was not really as stretchable as a regular dough. As stated above, I did add an extra 30g of water 30 minutes after that too, and once again it didn't handle as it normally does, my notes also say that the dough was slow to get a good gluten stretch, and it is these unusual dough characteristics that should have kept me alert to the moisture in the dough.

I messed up the baking! Because the dough felt fairly robust and not slumpy in the banneton I assumed it would bake the same as a normal loaf and this wasn't the case. I baked it side by side with a regular sourdough and that was a mistake - my habit is to turn the loaves when I remove the steam trays after 20 minutes and this bread was still very wet and loose and should not have been turned, and this turn seemed to knock it into a strange and wonky shape. Perhaps I should also have given a few small scores rather than the single 'ear' type score as well to contain some slumping. It did get an extra 15 minutes in the oven with the door cracked open afterwards, but certainly this bread should have been baked more carefully, as one does with a wet slumpy dough, and requires at least a full hour of low and slow baking with foil tenting.


This bread was super delicious. As the main ingredients were generously used, with ample hummus and miso, the flavours really came through and shone. It made for a lovely savoury breakfast bread, and since we had a friend visiting who was appreciative, it was cut a little too early, and a little too hot. And was superb with melting butter on it. And, finally, gone within an hour.

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