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lakelly

Using old bread

This morning I realized I had a loaf of mixed garden herb sourdough left from last Sunday! Yikes! Week old bread. I remembered a section from the River Cottage Bread Handbook on using old bread and tossed slices in olive oil and baked at 450 for ~20 minutes with a flip halfway through. The results were awesome-crispy crust and crumb with the slightest chew in the centers. My 8 year old son and husband (OK, me too) finished them off throughout an afternoon of yard work, but I wish I had a photo to show the golden brown deliciousness!

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SteveB

Bialys

For those interested, the details of a recent bake of bialys can be found here:

http://www.breadcetera.com/?p=185

SteveB

http://www.breadcetera.com

 

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DrPr

How do I find out the properties of my oganic flour?

I was so excited to find organic, locally produced whole wheat flour that I bought it before considering that I don't know how to determine whether it is suitable as-is for sourdough baking.  The seller didn't know much about protein or gluten content (and I didn't know enough to ask the right questions, I'm sure). How can I test the flour before baking to determine whether I need to add anything to it? And what would I need to add, if this flour doesn't have the properties of bread flour?

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Jw

starter smelled like yoghurt

I should have known something was wrong with the starter. After an overnight to make a starter, it smelled like yoghurt and there were no bubbles at all. No rise in the oven. I guess my starter was too ripe, but I am not sure.

Lesson learned: when you are not sure about the started: stop the proces!

Can I eat the bread? It is a bit sticky, looks wet as well.

Tx, Jw.

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flour-girl

Pretzel rolls -- perfect for grilling season

I went on a quest for pretzel-roll recipes yesterday and ended up adapting a few to come up with what I think is a pretty darn tasty pretzel roll -- perfect for sausages or burgers this grilling season.

You can check it out at Flour Girl.

Happy baking! And happy weekend!

Heather

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PeterPiper

Team USA ciabatta

I made the Team USA ciabatta from the BBA and was amazed at the results.  I started with BBA's 178% hydration poolish, which hardly had any activity compared to be usual 100% poolish.  The next day when I made the dough, I folded 3x over 3 hours and the dough seemed barely alive, and hydration levels were like pancake batter.  When I went to place it on my parchment, it poured from my hands like silk--by far the most slack dough/batter I've ever worked with.  I decided to retard the dough in the fridge overnight and bake it this morning before work.  The dough had hardly changed and was about 1" thick and flabby, like a deflated toad.  I had zero faith it would turn out.  However, the ciabatta sprung to life in the oven, more than doubling during the oven spring and turning into something incredible.  The smell was heavenly--creamy, salty, and rich.  I won't be able to cut into it until tonight, but I think my faith has been restored.

Has anyone else made this recipe?  It was a complete morale killer right up to the first 15 minutes of baking when it transformed.  I'm thinking the overnight stay in the fridge may have improved flavor, but I don't have any comparison.  Thoughts?

Team USA ciabatta

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Windowpane test

I have made a few of the recipes in PR's BBA book. Tonight, as I was mixing for the Anadama bread, I had a problem with the dough being too wet. So during knead time I was forced to add probably a cup of flour, little by little, in order to get something akin to the dough he describes. But when I go to do the windowpane test, the dough, as it has once before, kind of rips and tears apart. It's not smooth and thin and light, like I've seen in videos of the windowpane method.

 

Does this mean I am not kneading enough? Should I wait and get the dough as close to workable before starting knead time? And why am I having to add so much extra flour anyway? I did make a few changes. *gulp* I used regular cornmeal instead of coarse and had to use 4 T honey because I ran out of molasses. The only other thing I did differently was to use a mix, about half and half, of bread flour and white whole Wheat, instead of the all bread flour he suggests. Did those changes have huge impact on the dough consistency? 

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Steve H

Coffee Roasting

So I figured there might be people in here into other artisan sorta stuff.  Here's some coffee I roasted this morning.  I was going for a City+ roast and this coffee particularly has a strong aroma and flavor of blueberries when roasted.  Ethiopian Harrar Horse.  This is a particularly fruity lot I had stored away from a few years ago.  The uneven color is a characteristic of this bean.

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ClimbHi

What's the difference between cake/cookies

Backstory: A local (?) baker supplies cookies, etc. to many of the local coffee shops here in da "Burgh. One of the treats they make is a carrot cake cookie with cream cheese icing -- needless to say, what's not to like?

My wife, a super baker, agreed to attempt to replicate these gems. She's done pretty well by starting with a carrot cake recipe and cutting down on the liquids, but she's still not there. Still too "cake-like".

How would you convert a cake recipe into cookies that have a bit of crunch as opposed to a more brownie-like texture? Enquiring wastelines want to know!

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Shiao-Ping

Red Wine Longan Sourdough - part 2 of French sourdough breads in Japan? ... and "variety breads"?

In my last post, French sourdough breads in Japan? ... and "variety breads"?, I mentioned the Taiwanese chef who won the second place in the 2008  the Coupe du Monde de la Boulangerie in Paris.  The chef who was responsible for the baguette/specialty breads section was Pao-Chun Wu from Kaohsiung, the second largest city in Taiwan.  The bread that won him the championship in the Asia qualifying tounament a year before the 2008 Olympics of bread-baking (to use SusanFNP's words at her Wild Yeast blog, as well as the 2008 "Olympics," is a creation incorporating a Taiwanese local dried fruit, longan, which was soaked in red wine and then made into a Pain de Menage style of bread.  (For a picture of this bread please refer to my comment in my last post.)

Longan (see pictures below) is a Southeast Chinese fruit, known for its rich syrupy aroma.  Throughout Chinese history, it is said that the North has ginseng and the South has longan.  The small town, near Kaohsiung, where chef Wu sources the dried longan for his championship boule, has been producing it for hundreds of years.  As soon as longan is harvested, it is roasted in a wood fired oven for six days and nights, during which time the town people take turns to mind the fire at night.    

    

Longan literally means "dragon's eyes" in Mandarin    

As I have no way of sourcing this dried longan or having access to chef Wu's recipe, I decided to make do with what I have.  I do have a reference point as I had the pleasure of tasting it five months ago when I was back in Taiwan visiting my parents for Chinese New Year.    

I bought a bag of the dried fruit from China town in Brisbane, soaked the fruit in red wine (with a touch of Grand Marnier) and refreshed my starter at the same time last night.  I am finding my starter has been performing much better since I changed its hydration to 75% from 100%.  This  morning I mixed my dough as normal, autolysed, salted it, then mixed again, then added the dried longan and mixed it again.  I then divided it into two portions; the larger portion I added extra toasted walnuts to make it into a boule; the smaller portion I made into two skinny breads.  First fermentation was 3 hours in the balmy wintry outdoor temp of 25C (77F) and proofing was 2 1/2 hours.  It was baked in a very hot oven at 240C (460F) with steam.

 

Red Wine Longan & Walnut Boule (It's early winter here in Australia but my bougainvilleas are still roaring with blooms.)    

 

The crumb of Red Wine Longan & Walnut Boule    

 

Red Wine Longan Sourdough    

 

The crumb of Red Wine Longan Sourdough    

I am very happy with the results of these breads.  The rich aroma from the longan and red wine is a cracker combination.   There is a delicate balance between the sweet longan and the added salt.  I was a bit shy with the red wine so the crumb color isn't as deep as in my memory.  In fact, a vintage port  may even be a better pair with the longan.  Both breads are delicious.  The crumb is moist and flavorsome and the crust is crispy and aromatic.  To further improve the flavor I could try retarding the dough next time.    

The silly thing is I thought I had my glasses on when I was weighing my ingredients (I was aiming for a final dough hydration of around 69%, counting the red wine) but the final dough was 400g more than I thought!  I do not know how much more flour or water that was actually put in.  My dough felt more like 72% than 69%!  As the flour I used was high gluten at 13.6%, I knew I could push the hydration to give the crumb a better chance of opening up; but I did not want too much hydration as my technique could not handle it.  My daughter asked me to write up the recipe for next time.  Well, it'll have to be a new one then.    

Shiao-Ping  

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